The subtle conspiracy against social media

by Michael VanDervort on April 14, 2010 · 49 comments

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 ”Social media – Them’s fightin words around these parts!”

I hear the words “social media” discussed so much anymore that I am starting to fear the backlash of overhype at a time when people in the HR profession can ill afford for that happen.   It would make it for another far too easy excuse for many HR professionals to throw out as their response as to why they can’t /won’t / don’t do much with social media.   Sad, but true. 

So, what am I doing today?   I’m gonna discuss social media some more. 

I want to broach a topic that I have discussed at length with a few people.   I am not going to share details, but do want to raise the issue at a high level for your consideration, and to prompt some discussion.  If what I am about to describe occurs within the HR profession, it certainly takes place in other functional areas as well.

The conspiracy – it’s not just a theory

I often discuss mingling my work in social media with the professional work I do in other areas.   I have discovered recently that I take for granted the level of flexibility I have in doing stuff related to social media on an on-going basis, including writing this blog and speaking at conferences, and other events which I am more and more frequently being invited to participate in. 

I realized this after hearing a very similar story from more than one person who has experienced conflicts with their employer over their social media activities, even when they were being open about it, and doing it on their own time.

The long story made short goes like this:

  • I took vacation to attend a conference and they were pissed that I was going.
  • They tried to make me cancel my trip when they found out where I was going even though it was my vacation time.
  • They questioned my loyalty and dedication when they heard I had a blog.
  • They suspected that I was blogging and talking to other HR professionals during working hours.

I could go on, but I think the point is obvious.  Many of us engaged in the HR/social media space are getting the stink eye from our managers, for a multitude of reasons:

  • We are slacking in our professional duties by communicating with our professional peers.
  • We are showing a lack of commitment by attempting to increase our professional knowledge and competence through the “timewasting”  tools of social media.
  • We might be job searching while we are “chatting online with our friends”.

I could go on, but I won’t.    I’ll just say I don’t get it. 

I use social media tools as a professional asset every day,  and many of the people I work with get it.   Not all, but many.   They don’t think I am shirking my duties.  In fact, they come to me fr assitance in doing “that internet stuff” when a specific situation develops that merits research and review.  They share tips with me about things they see related to my typcial research. 

Are HR managerial people who don’t get it so easily threatened by those of us that do that they feel the need to drag down the possible value by attacking  our professionalism?  

Are they so lacking in knowledge of the value of these tools that they can only take the short term view of  social media being a timesuck?

why revile someone working to advance their skills and knowledge?  Why not embrace these early adopters and put their skills to work for your organization, especially when you can’t do it yourself?

These questions are somewhat rhetorical, and clearly don’t take into account larger issue like employers blocking access, corporate policies, fears of liability under FTC guidelines, and many others, but I would love to continue the dialogue. 

I am grateful that all my personal experiences in this regard have been positive and encouraging, but I’d lobe to hear from you on this topic. 

Share your opinion in the comments, or share your personal experience, if you dare.    

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1 MikeVanDervort April 14, 2010 at 11:07 am

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2 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 11:07 am

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3 GingerDodds April 14, 2010 at 11:14 am

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4 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 11:15 am

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5 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 11:16 am

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6 Michael Carty April 14, 2010 at 11:17 am

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7 Ginger Dodds April 14, 2010 at 11:17 am

Michael,
I have some of those very thoughts every day! Glad to see you speak aloud for all of us that struggle with this. I find so much information related to what I do at my company (and share with co-workers) yet feel like I have to limit my time on social media so as to not look like I’m goofing off. But guess who they call when they have questions about Social Media? Double edged sword some days. I’m very curious to read others feedback/comments as well. I fear we are not alone.

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8 Michael VanDervort
Twitter:
April 15, 2010 at 12:04 pm

I can guarantee that you are not alone, Ginger. Many companies are seeking to restrict access for what they perceive to be legitimate reasons. Lawyers and nay-sayers quote “statistics” claiming that on average people are wasting 2 hours out of every 8 hour work day on sites like Facebook. I don’t believe that, but it easy to buy into as a good reason not to engage.

Companies need to remember the concept of trust, and realize that the vast majority of employees will not betray the trust.

Those who want to do so will just use their smartphones to do so.

What disturbs me more is the idea that people are being pressured not to do work that can enhance their skills and their organization by short sited supervisors who are either missing the boat or threatened. It bites, and all managers who should have higher standards for themselves.

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9 topsy_top20k April 14, 2010 at 11:21 am

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10 Benjamin McCall
Twitter:
April 14, 2010 at 2:17 pm

Mike I think their is a difference when people make a big deal on Exempt vs non-exempt workers. There is a fear that the time I pay you for is not the work I am getting. That can be valid.

Overall I think that people need to let it go and just get it. At ASTD national they focus much on learning within research and the typical and traditional approach. Any new studies are more about peoples thoughts and feeling around new learning tools. Too me the only way I can see if it will be a benefit to me is if I mess a round, use it real time.

Many people suck at understanding it, suck at using it so they all they do is get out their torches and pitch forks.
sad

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11 Michael VanDervort
Twitter:
April 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm

Ben – there is a valid concern about people who may eventually rasie a claim for unpaid wages, but the point of this post is really about managers who engage in repression of people who are doing exactly what you said – using the tools to learn and develop themselves – quite often on their personal time.

Raises issues of how far does your jpob extend, and if you face this type of pressure, are you a good fit for that organization. In most of the cases I am aware of, the people who dealt with these types of issues walked – happily into better situations.

So the short sighted manager drove away skills and passion – beacause they weren’t totally focused on whatever vision that individual thought correct.

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12 Marc Parent April 14, 2010 at 3:02 pm

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13 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 3:08 pm

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14 MikeVanDervort April 14, 2010 at 3:16 pm

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15 MikeHaberman April 14, 2010 at 3:21 pm

@MikeVanDervort I am doing DriveThruHR radio tomorrow and talking about the value of Twitter as an HR tool. May I reference UR SM post?

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16 MikeVanDervort April 14, 2010 at 11:24 am

@MikeHaberman yes you may! i am doing a similar talk to a group of grad students at Michigan State Univ on 4/28

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17 Mike Haberman April 14, 2010 at 3:21 pm

RT @MikeVanDervort: The subtle conspiracy against social media http://bit.ly/bTFRBi

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18 Jessica Miller-Merrell
Twitter:
April 14, 2010 at 3:23 pm

Mike and I have talked about this topic at length. Exempt vs. non-exempt has nothing to do with it. Companies are concerned with the legal ramifications and the employee’s brand outshining theirs. Decision makers within corporate HR do not understand social media and how it can be used to elevate a company’s brand and provide the company with added benefits. I can fill positions faster, find creative solutions, case studies, and insight from my network of social media HR professionals. I can instantly connect with professionals who leverage these tools to grow themselves personally and professionally squarely placing their faces in the HR social media conversation. For some that is extremely intimidating and terrifying. For others it is a place full of support, resources, and friendship.
How do I know this? Because I lived through several of these situations that Mike discusses in his post and there are plenty of us out there. It’s one of the reasons why I’m so passionate about moving the HR industry forward and understanding the benefits and practical uses of social media in and outside of HR.
Thank you, Mike for some great discussion.

Jessica

@blogging4jobs

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19 Michael VanDervort
Twitter:
April 15, 2010 at 12:10 pm

Jessica – I am really looking forward to your post on this topic, since I know you can personally articulate the events and pressure in a nway that I can’t.

I think your comment on personal versus company brand is very insightful.

Lokking forward to more!

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20 CT Trivella April 14, 2010 at 3:25 pm

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21 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 3:27 pm

How is your use of social media perceived by your employer? love to hear! The subtle conspiracy against social media http://bit.ly/bTFRBi

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22 Cyndy Trivella
Twitter:
April 14, 2010 at 3:39 pm

Mike, you make some very good remarks here. The conspiracy is there and it’s all too real. I meet many HR professionals through my job and I am here to tell you, I hear about the “head in the sand” corporate rules against using social media all the time. Most of the HR people I come into contact with don’t understand their organization’s stand on it. Most HR folks recognize that people are going to say what they’re going to say and keeping our employees from accessing tools will not stop the communication. The talk may not be through social venues, but the talk will happen. We live in a world of transparency today so the days of sweeping the dirt under the rug is no longer an option. Being in the game is better than being a sideliner. When a company is active and involved in this arena, they are actually more in control than being a passive onlooker. I know we’ll all get there some day… my hope it that it’s sooner rather than later.

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23 Michael VanDervort
Twitter:
April 15, 2010 at 12:11 pm

Cyndy – That is why I am working so hard to get more HR players off the sidelines and “into the game”! Great comment!

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24 Cyndy Trivella
Twitter:
April 15, 2010 at 1:43 pm

I know you are Mike and I applaud you!

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25 Trish McFarlane April 14, 2010 at 3:47 pm

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26 Michael VanDervort April 14, 2010 at 4:10 pm

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48 Robert Bacal
Twitter:
July 24, 2010 at 12:55 pm

Sorry, but the level of discourse on LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter is so low, so superficial that if you need to use it to “grow” as a professional, I’d fire myself is I was the one to hire you.

…and I fire you too.

There’s another, even thornier issue here, that has to do with who is responsible for your (the individual’s learning and career development). I don’t know what the answer should be, but it could be argued that you do that on YOUR time. Or it could be argued it’s a shared responsibility, or mostly the employer. I dunno.

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49 Michael VanDervort
Twitter:
July 24, 2010 at 4:25 pm

Hey Robert – thanks for sharing your opinion, although I don’t agree with your point of view. I get quite a lot from my discourse and networking via twitter, linkedin et al. Feel free to fire yourself though, if you think you should. As far it goes for me, our SVP of HR refers to the work I do as “magic”, so I’ll roll with that!

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