Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead?

by Michael VanDervort on December 13, 2009 · 17 comments

On the table

Over There Thursday with Bill Boorman

My “go-to” social networking connector in the United Kingdom, the ubiquitous Bill Boorman make a return guest appearance on HRH with a thoughtful piece on the current state of Brand. I am still working out arrangements, but I am hopeful that I will be able to get myself to London in February for the unconference know as #trulondon. Thanks for the contribution, Bill!

Question on the table: Who creates a brand?

I’m glad to have the opportunity to post on Mike’s blog, it is one that I follow and enjoy reading and learning from. In particular I have followed the “Over There” piece which features bloggers from around the world. The impact of social media over the last 12 months has brought me closer to a global network of Recruiters, HR Professionals, Vendors and others with an interest in the Talent space.

The other big change is the access to global opinion on the same subjects and I find this really interesting. Never before have we had both the access and spirit of openness to be able to understand local, domestic and global perspectives. It is exciting times shaped by social media channels. (Personally, I think the self development opportunity is even bigger than the business one.)
Just recently I have been thinking a lot about employer branding. I’ve read quite a few blogs, listened to talk shows, taken part in discussions and even a Google wave on the subject. I’m beginning to think that the issue is no longer employer branding, but more employee branding. Due to social media channels in particular Facebook group’s, employees have a massive voice outside of their organisation. They shape the way the outside world and in particular potential candidates and customers view them. Through any of these channels it is easy for potential new recruits to form opinions over who they want to work for. Existing employees may well already communicate with potential new recruits and it is these conversations that shape the perception of employer branding. Even huge corporations can’t control this, or gloss over it with a shiny marketing approach. Companies no longer control the employer brand whatever steps they take at censorship. A happy workforce will reflect this and an unhappy one, likewise.

Paul Harrison of Carve Consulting in the U.K. told me some time ago that it was more important to “listen” than it was to “talk” in social media. At the time I wasn’t quite ready for this message. I have since come to realise that he was on the money in this respect. You need to know just what is being said in order to react to it. The reaction can’t be a knee jerk and stomping about with gagging orders. You need to listen and look at why things are being said rather than what is being said. Social media is the mirror to what is being said.

Optimist

Equally, you won’t be able to gloss over issues; if you want a positive employer brand then you will need positive employees. Simple! That means ongoing listening, communication and creating channels so that conversation can genuinely take place internally before it reaches the outside world. That means very broad shoulders, real openness and willingness to accept feedback and change the environment accordingly.
Not easy, and something I don’t have a solution to just yet but an area I’m going to devote some thinking time and discussion to over the coming months. The employees are the employer brand and not the brochures. New role for H.R?

Your thoughts would be most welcome! Be ambassadors for great practice!

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1 Michael VanDervort December 13, 2009 at 5:23 pm

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2 Michael VanDervort December 13, 2009 at 5:24 pm

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3 Bill Boorman December 13, 2009 at 5:38 pm

Now itsworking! My guest post on @MikeVanDervort blog: Is the employer brand dead? http://ow.ly/LDT6

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4 Trish McFarlane December 13, 2009 at 5:41 pm

RT @BillBoorman: Now itsworking! My guest post on @MikeVanDervort blog: Is the employer brand dead? http://ow.ly/LDT6

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5 Caleb Donegan December 13, 2009 at 5:47 pm

RT @GregKThompson: Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead? http://bit.ly/7WQbHe

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6 The Social CHRO December 13, 2009 at 5:47 pm

RT @GregKThompson Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead? http://bit.ly/7WQbHe #socialCHRO

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7 Keith Robinson December 13, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Bill a nice provocative piece but wrong the Employer Brand and is alive, well and even more relevant today.

I do agree about The power of the “Personal Brand” both as an internal employee and as an external “future employee”. See

I also agree about listening and wrote a piece on this some weeks ago and all this “listening helps understand and feeds into the pulse of the organisation. The great news is that today we don’t next wait for the annual “Employee Survey” if that ever truly revels the truth but can hear it real time.

I also agree that social is a mirror or reflector BUT this is a small part of what the Employer Brand is. Social is a tool nothing more or less that can be used to help or hinder BUT does not define.

The Employer Brand is the organisation in it’s entirety, it is it’s DNA; It’s the good, the bad, it’s honesty, it’s transparency, it’s the past and the future, it’s what some say and other don’t or won’t.

It is the board, the management, and all those who work for the organisation and yes external opinions impact on the EB but are not it.

You are right it is NOT glossy images, marketing spin BUT equally it is not about a minority of negative comments, unfortunatly social media is like all mediums “Bad news sell and good news gets !!. But as part of a management tool kit having a strategy on how to listen too and too respond is and must be part of the future responsibility of HR BUT is just a part.

For some great definitions of what Employer Branding is and why it is relevant watch the Employer Branding debate at http://www.jobsiteadvisor.com/

One final comment I agree with the need to listen to all comments BUT we must also understand the context of the comment if not we act blindly and spend more time responding too comments rather that changing the reason for the comment.

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8 The Social CMO December 13, 2009 at 5:52 pm

RT @TheSocialCHRO @GregKThompson Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead? http://bit.ly/7WQbHe #socialCHRO

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9 Charee Klimek December 13, 2009 at 5:53 pm

RT @TheSocialCMO RT @TheSocialCHRO @GregKThompson Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead? http://bit.ly/7WQbHe #socialCHRO

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10 MikeVanDervort December 13, 2009 at 10:23 pm

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11 Michael VanDervort December 13, 2009 at 10:23 pm

[New Post at The Human Race Horses] Global Thinking – The employer brand is dead? http://toast.tw/100c9p

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12 Bill Boorman December 14, 2009 at 10:39 am

@CarveConsulting Can i have your bio & picture for the site. You should also look at http://ow.ly/LPeB & http://ow.ly/LPeC Li Carve in both

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