Recruiting Turf Wars: Is the Recruitment Grass Really Greener On The Other Side (of the World)

by Michael VanDervort on October 9, 2009 · 20 comments

Over There:  Recruiting in New Zealand

For this week’s view from “Over There”, we get to hear about some ideas on recruiting from David Talamelli, a recruiting professional for Oracle based in New Zealand.  David also blogs about working at Oracle.   In this post, David shares some thoughts on recruiting around the world.

Is the Recruitment Grass Really Greener On The Other Side (of the World)

New Zealand Turf

New Zealand Turf

It can be easy in life to sometimes think that the grass is greener on the other side. This can be anything from where you live, what role you are in, the technology available…the list can be endless. It is human nature for our minds to wonder and think of what things can be like on the other side of the fence. Yes, there are times that things actually are better elsewhere, however for the most part after having a look, what we often find is that is not often the case. In my time in Recruitment I have spoken to a number of Recruiters locally in ANZ who think that the Recruitment Function overseas is far more advanced than it is actually may be. Many times I have spoken to Recruiters in ANZ who think that we as an industry locally are a few years behind in the way recruitment takes place in comparison to other locations like North America or EMEA.

Good Recruiters Succeed Anywhere

For the most part I disagree with statements like these, a good Recruiter will be successful regardless of the location they work.

I can however appreciate that local cultural differences can play a part. I think this line of thinking comes from the fact that many of the tools we now use tend to come from ‘hotspots’ like US West Coast or UK, etc…. Before social networking was all the rage many social networks were being created and used by early adopters in the US. For example (and this is a generalisation), I do think that the uptake of social networking tools occurs faster and is more engrained in the US than in comparison to Australia. In the US from what I have seen people are generally more open to sharing their information on public forums than people are locally in Australia. I think in Australia people tend to be more reserved when sending their resumes to companies or more cautious about setting up public profiles.

I remember when I first set up my LinkedIn account about 4 years ago. In 2006, LinkedIn provided me with a competitive advantage as many Recruiters locally were not using LinkedIn at all. It was being used by many Recruiters in the US but not in Australia. I think this is because LinkedIn’s early adopters were predominantly based in the US. As the social network has expanded over the past 3-4 years it has become used more in other countries. Fast forward to 2009 and every Recruiter globally has a profile on LinkedIn (as a side note – I fear LinkedIn is going to become overrun with Recruiters and many candidates may lose interest in it as a tool, due to all the white noise).

I think that there are good and bad Recruiters everywhere - location does not make a person successful. As I have blogged about previously I do believe that in Recruitment that Customer Service is King. We may do things differently across the globe but one universal rule that I think applies regardless of location is that if you can not treat your clients and candidates with a superior level of customer service, you will always come in second place. I could put together a number of quotes of what makes a Recruiter successful, but like anything in life you only get out of something what you put in. You can not be successful if you are afraid to pick up the phone and make your cold calls or if you think that candidates will magically fall into your lap – it does not matter where you are or what tools you have available, hard work and determination are what counts.

About the Blogger

David Talamelli is a Principal Recruiter for Oracle Corporation in the APAC Region and is based in Melbourne, Australia. David is responsible for end to end recruitment for Oracle across Australia and New Zealand with exposure across other APAC countries.  He has been with Oracle in their APAC Recruitment Division since early 2006. David has 10+ years IT Recruitment experience with previous roles onsite at Hewlett-Packard and also at GAP IT Consulting. David has created and run Oracle’s Global Recruitment Blog (http://blogs.oracle.com/jobsatoracle). This blog is instrumental in Oracle’s Web 2.0 Recruitment Strategy and has grown to over 1600+ subscribers in the last 12 months

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1 Michael VanDervort October 9, 2009 at 7:23 am

[New Post] Recruiting Turf Wars http://toast.tw/1001a9

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2 Michael VanDervort October 9, 2009 at 7:26 am

new Post: Is the recruiting grass really greener on the other side of the world? http://bit.ly/rU1xh

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3 Michael VanDervort October 9, 2009 at 7:27 am

@DavidTamelli Your post from "Over There": Is the recruiting grass really greener on the other side of the world? http://bit.ly/rU1xh

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4 Michael VanDervort October 9, 2009 at 1:15 pm

RT @BillBoorman: post from "Over There": Is the recruiting grass really greener on the other side of the world? http://bit.ly/rU1xh

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5 DavidTalamelli October 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm

RT @MikeVanDervort: RT @BillBoorman post from AU: Is the recruiting grass really greener on the other side of the world? http://bit.ly/rU1xh

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6 DavidTalamelli October 9, 2009 at 9:41 pm

@MikeVanDervort Hi Mike, I just had a look at http://bit.ly/rU1xh – looks good, thanks for the opportunity to share this post on your site

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7 Ron Nieman October 12, 2009 at 2:37 pm

David, thanks for your article and comments. I agree that the key to being a good recruiter is to put in the effort that is required – from cold calling to providing the best possible candidates available and all that falls in between. Having lived in Asia and done business internationally for 15 years (before opening my SRA office), I can attest to the fact that the largest differences around the globe are really just a matter of culture. On the business front, everyone by-in-large wants to succeed in whatever endeavor they choose to pursue. On a simplistic level, regional differences means that as a recruiter you may have to make some adjustments to the kinds of questions asked, the way you ask them, or in the order in which they are asked.

The world is getting flatter day by day and as such, its harder to keep those secrets on why we are so go good at what we do…oh well…back to cold calling.

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8 inTalent Consulting October 12, 2009 at 2:04 pm

Are recruiters in other parts of the world better? Not if they can't manage their stakeholders: http://tinyurl.com/yzpdvgx

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9 Michael VanDervort October 12, 2009 at 4:23 pm

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10 anita santiago October 12, 2009 at 4:37 pm

RT @MikeVanDervort: RT @tweetmeme Recruiting Turf Wars: Is the Recruitment Grass Really Greener On The Other Side http://bit.ly/D75il

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11 Donna White October 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm

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12 inTalent Consulting October 12, 2009 at 6:04 pm

Are recruiters in other parts of the world better? Not if they can't manage their stakeholders: http://tinyurl.com/yzpdvgx

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13 Tara Kachaturoff October 12, 2009 at 6:20 pm

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14 Dannuroo October 13, 2009 at 6:09 pm

@DavidTalamelli nice mate http://bit.ly/4h3Dwp

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15 Recruitment 2.0 APAC October 13, 2009 at 6:14 pm

Based in NZ? Has NZ acquired Australia? RT @Dannuroo: @DavidTalamelli nice mate http://bit.ly/4h3Dwp

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16 Michael VanDervort October 23, 2009 at 7:18 pm

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17 Michael VanDervort October 23, 2009 at 11:18 pm

RT @recruitment2 Based in NZ? Has NZ acquired Australia? RT @Dannuroo: @DavidTalamelli nice mate http://bit.ly/4h3Dwp

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18 Nahiaali December 7, 2009 at 5:04 am

Thanks for nice information update.

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